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We all saw this day coming after Bill was pushed out but even i didnt think it would only be one season. I just got confirmation that Bill is currently in negotiations with a WCAC school that is committed to providing what is needed to compete and win. The "real" LK succeeded in pushing Bill out along with the administration and now Bill is committed to showing them what he has left. 

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He wants to be able to name a "HC in waiting" in order to lure a top assistant away from his current school.

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because that is the only way that Baucia will get a HC job...Bill has to get it for him

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I am not certain but it might be a current DM assistant who was overlooked during the hiring process.  It is certainly not the DM coach who pushed the Gonzaga player.

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Legend:

Couple of questions:

1. What WCAC school is looking at him?

2. Did he really get "pushed out" of DeMatha? Everything I heard/read he left of his own volition and wanted to do so. 

3. Can you, and I know you didnt mention it, but I figured Id ask you, explain all the venom against Baucia? Dont know the guy from a hole in the wall, but, if I believe everything I read on this site, he is the worst thing since Hitler and ID like to know why he is such a horrible human being. 

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The only school that has the resources would be SJC. Oh, and his name is spelled McGregor.

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Is Bill sick of the drive to Gilman yet. And Yes SJC is the only school who has the resources to pull in a big name like McGregor. 

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Not sure McGregor will take the job because he is enjoying his stint at Gilman.  I'm sure he would love to have the DC come join him if he went, but the bigger question is that is this "proof" that he did not leave so willingly?  If so, then again alumni should be concerned as the transaction has been a disaster.

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SJC would not be far fetched if this rumor is true about talks with a WCAC school. If anyone knows any history as to how McGregor came to the DC area, St. John's is very much a part of the reason why.  McGregor's parents were both working at SJC at the time McGregor made his move to the area.  He was interested in a coaching gig but the hiring decion maker at the time, Brother Ed, did not wish to have too many family members working at the same facility and directed him towards DeMatha.  The rest is pretty much history.  Still, McGregor has maintained a good relationship with many members of the St. John's community.  It should also be made clear that the new principal at St. John's has a strong interest in developing a good program as the last school he was at he was a major part of the building process that brought success.  Without a doubt the funds are there with obvious benefactors like Kevin Plank and UA, plus guys like Fernandez and Kimsey who are worth over a billion dollars.  New facilities, historic DC school, and the conference...this is a head coaching dream if the position is open to McGregor.  I would be pumped if this were true.  Patterson is a good guy but not a smart coach.

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This is pretty funny that people are coveting this head coach, whose one criteria for staying or coming to new school is that he is given unlimited resources ($$$) to out bid (I'm sorry provide need-based financial aid as they have always done in the past) every other school in the conference for the top talent (and others just so other schools don't get them).  If that's the parameters I'll take a crack at it....

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Its a free country and if Bill wants to urinate on his 40 years at Dematha, he has every right to do so.

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like they urinated on him last year?

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I did not know Patterson had been fired or resigned?

This does not make sense.  SJC just came off a playoff season and lost to the eventual champion.  Every school is not like GC where they bring in a coach and give him unlimited cash to build a nationally recognized program.  Some schools still push academics first.  I think SJC is still academics first because why would they ask so many of their players to leave each year because of grades?  Why the change of heart? 

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I'm convinced, as is everyone else, that he doesn't know what he is talking about.  This thread is helping me to understand that he might just be a student or a kid.  This is turning into one of those classic trolls that you see on the Washington Post's comments sections.

It basicallly the same gripes over and over (DeMatha was unfair in the HC hiring, the administration sucks, Bill McGregor was wronged, Ed King is incompetent.)  So far, we have all seen facts to the contrary but a few individuals assert the same lame accusations.

There are never any solutions offered by the individuals.

The goal is the propogation of lame accusations.

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I don't understand why everyone is saying that DM and GC has given up on academics to win?  This is crazy!  Gonzaga is in the Championship, and did they give up on academics?  No I do not think so!  GC and Gonzaga has something that SJC does not, and that is great Coaching.  Academics has nothing to do with the product that you put on the field.  Check the GC players GPA's and tell me if academics has been compramised and I'm talking about the four hourseman and all the other 21 D-1 players.  Matter of fact go back and check their grades coming into GC.  You will find that they could have attended any school in the WCAC they so pleased.   Stop with the academics crap and just admit SJC did not play well enough to make it anywhere this year but to #4 in a very week WCAC.

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And if pigs had wings they'd be pigeons.  If there was a WCAC fantasy football league, we now know who the first 20 people to sign up would be.   

SUCKERS!

This is just Baucia stirring things up

Just more Baucia sour grapes. The funny thing is that he is making much more at Gilman, go figure...

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Sure ETSU, your knowledge about Bill McGregor and high school football in general has proven to be right on point.  St. John's would never reach out to Bill to better their program, perhaps you can lobby for the Carroll grad and current OC of the DeMatha program to take over like you lobbied for him for the DeMatha job?

Chris what is your point?

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You used to be so creative on your posts over the last two years so I'm a little disappointed with your lack of creativity.  As an alumni, I just want to be sure my fellow alumni like you and the development director are proud of yourselves for the last two years.  I think the answer is yes so congrats are in order.

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Who knows whats going on, one thing for sure SJC nation is glad they didnt hire the coach they were courting before Joe Pa got the job

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Teacher, I think most real alums are proud of what DeMatha has accomplished the last two years: a cover article in the New York Times about the incredicle band program (and an easy transition to new leadership of the band program), what should be a national championship for the soccer team, another WCAC title for the basketball team, great new science labs, Kraz winning teacher of the year by the Post. Again, your definition of DeMatha is "DeMatha football coached by Bill McGregor." Time to open your eyes to the great things at DM (beyond a solid football season and a promising crop of young players).

Obviously you feel personally burned by the school for some reason. I know you're not Baucia, because Baucia would never appreciate the irony in calling himself "The Teacher". You hide behind this name to make your repetitive accusations and suggestions, either because you are afraid of losing a job or being ostracized by the community you dedicate your time to criticizing. But your anonymous attacks (on a school you claim gives you a paycheck) are ignored by the vast majority of the DeMatha community. In no way will your efforts change DeMatha to your vision.

I not allowing myself to be baited by you anymore...

Teacher:

In fact I've come to pity you. I feel sorry for you.

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stop with the rumors, McGreggor will never coach at another WCAC school.  He will face the same problem he was facing at DM, as long as Millow is at GC, GC will dominate the WCAC ib football.  GC has no compition for the athletes they recruit and have a greator area to recruit from. McGregor relaized that and tried to get DM to support the prgram to a greator degree, DM declined, McGreggor left.  Hewont be back, if he couldn't recruit comparable athletes(to GC) at DM, even with with UA money he wont be able to at any other WCAC school.  For the last 7 years its been GC v DM, for the rest of the Milloy era it will be GC and who cares. GC wont be challenged as long as Milloy is the coach!

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What rumor did I start GCFan? Nothing from me...

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Here is a real question that I don't have the answer to, but I've wondered for quite some time now: if the plan is to get paid, why not look at NCAA Division 1, or 1AA?

Forget coaching at a high school.  Last year I had the pleasure of being involved in the selection process for my other alma mater during the search for a new football coach.  Howard University hadn't won a game in 2 years and they still paid the previous coach 3X the salary of a high school coach.

Now if one of the worst football programs in the country that has been known to ACTIVELY attempt losing, and actually rejoices in losing seasons is willing to pay a coach say 200K per annum, then you have got to be able to get out there and get that paper...  And we're talking black college, ya'll.

Let me put it another way: if I explained to the powers that be that we could have parts or all of the previous DeMatha football staff the targeted individuals would've had to sort through at least one college offer....  And I'm a fan and a friend of Flea and I believe that the right guy got the job!

2 quick things:  1) A lot of white players don't want to play at HBCU's but the fact remains that a scholarship is a scholarship. 2) I understand that coaching at an HBCU isn't everyone's dream but the money spends just the same.

If folks out there are really chasing paper, they might be going about it all wrong.  

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I am not sure if McGreggor wanted the money for him, but more money to recruit players.  Also some coaches(Wooten Basketball)love coaching HS kids and don't want to coach at the college level.

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ETSU, didn't mean u were spreading rumors, you were the last post is all

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dicooper, when my son was at Mercersberg he sent an email to Bowie State to see if he might be able to play for them, he never got a reply.  It a two way steet, unfortunately!  You are right though a scholarshi is a scholarship doesnt matter where,  And BTW all you people who said ealie this yearthat Towson sucked, 8-2 and CC champions this year, worst to first!

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I'm with you on that gcfan.  The Morgan Wootten's of the world weren't after money for themselves, and lo and behold the Lord found a way for guys like him to still get paid.

It still doesn't make sense to me though.  The same conditions existed for football at DeMatha that existed for basketball...  There was probably a way that he could've made it happen although I respect the ultimate decision to try somewhere else.  I don't look at it as a slap in the face, because every man has a right to pursue happiness.

But the differences in salary and resources can't be all that different from DeMatha to SJC to Gilman or even G'town Prep.  All it takes is one comparison to the University of Florida and this conversation is over.  White Universities go hard!  Basketball and Football coaches can earn in the millions...  Coaches make more than tenured professors and even university presidents.  If I had a resume that was similary to McGregor's, I'm sure I could parlay that into a few McMansions and sportscar or two.

And if we're really talking about money for resources, who gets to play God more than the Division 1 college coach?  We're talking about upgrading 30 kids' lives every year.  We're talking about guys like Clark at your disposal willing to build you just about anything you want on campus for FREE.  (I'm looking at you, University of Maryland.)  You think he couldn't have gotten a personal driver at even one of the lesser-known schools?

It is a baffling mystery to me how nobody has even thought of this before.  Honestly, if you are thinking about coaching or recruiting for a black college just call me.  You better win at homecoming, and you definitely won't starve.

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I am still baffled that Bowie State didn't even reply to Collin. And again I still am not confinced it was a $ issue for McGreggor......I think he releaized it was a good time to depart, that he wouldn't be able to compete vs GC in the comming years and why take the abuse?

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He leaves on top, he will go down as the ALL TIME BEST coach DM ever will have and if he stayed a few more years that would be diminished by the 1 or 2 losses he has to GC, Never mind that he would of won every other game!

Not a problem GC Fan

Not to worry, The Teacher has me spun up.

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Bowie State clearly dropped the ball on your son, and that isn't surprising.  If he was serious about going there, he probably could have forced the issue a little better than sending just one email.  Black college sports suffered during integration and many have learned the lesson to have an open mind when it comes to players.  

Bowie State has a lot of work to do, anyway.  Norfolk State won the MEAC this year after being in the cellar for most of the time they have been in the conference by opening the door to unconventional HBCU athletes.  FAMU has always done it for special teams, at least.  Howard is just getting hip to the game now, because the Bison are tired of losing to Hampton -mainly.

A few years back Morehouse College had a white validictorian and I'm told he played football.  The cream of the crop of HBCU's would warmly accept white students not just into their ranks, but also into their networks.  (Not all of the white colleges can say that, even after all these years of "progress.")  

Hands down best QB in black college sports today plays for Jackston State University and happens to be white.

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Why press the issue, if your not wanted, he found a home at Towson, and it's working out great.,  I just mentioned it because you brought up white kids didn't want to play at black colleges, so I wanted to show an example of the reverse is all.  

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WONT IT BE GREAT WHEN  WE NEVER HAVE TO DILLENATE BETWEEN BLACK AND WHITE!!!!!!!   I can honestly say my son is there, he could care less where he had gone to school and he did not see why Bowie State wouldn't get back to him and still thinks its because they had to many WR/return men and punters.  And that proably is the reason, but they still should of acknowledged the interst in the school. He should of contacted Howard!

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Agreed!

And I accept and appreciate the compliment!